Harsh words about Sales 2.0
The following quotes have not been written by myself. I found these different statements regarding Sales 2.0 in discussions on LinkedIn. For now I’m leaving out the names of the people who wrote them as I didn’t ask for their permission to put them on a blog. If you have been quoted here and you do want me to add your name and a link to your website, please leave a comment or contact me via LinkedIn.
The first one actually was in response to me saying that the emergence of what is called “Sales 2.0″ (which puts the buyer in the driver’s seat) does not really help to fix the broken relationship between Marketing and Sales but maybe having both departments report to the same person would:
“I did not know what Sales 2.0 was so I read the below on some website:
Sales 2.0 brings together customer-focused methodologies and productivity-enhancing technologies that transform selling from an art to a science. Sales 2.0 relies on a repeatable, collaborative and customer-enabled process that runs through the sales and marketing organization, resulting in improved productivity, predictable ROI and superior performance.
OK, That does not address the relationship between sales and marketing.
As far as Sales 2.0 goes, I think I’ll stick to making friends, helping others, and providing as much value as possible. It’s simple and it WORKS.”
The following two quotes were responding to someone’s question what Sales 2.0 really is:
“Sales 2.0 is many things. It is a book written by people with big company experience who do not really understand the needs of medium size companies. It is the justification for marketers who like to say “Cold Calling is Dead” (because they don’t actually understand how it works or have never been provided with the right service). Finally, it is an umbrella under which otherwise rational marketing executives exist while they pacify senior management with apparently low-cost solutions that provide output that is far inferior to more appropriate, more expensive solutions.
Some years ago, and issue of ZD Market Intelligence contained the following quote: “Many tech marketing departments are mere arrays of disparate tasks and uncoordinated contractors. These firms ignore the basics, like positioning statements. Many of these groups deceive themselves because either they have won some award for a tiny part of the marketing mix, or, not thanks to their efforts, the company’s overall success in the market to which they sell is increasing.” Harsh words. True words.
The more things change the more things stay the same.”
Next person, same discussion:
“Sales 2.0 reflects the seachange of how today’s customer wants to be approached and sold to. Cold calling is totally dead. It is an utter waste of time. Research, social media cred, word of mouth, learning seminars, etc are way better use of mktg and sales dollar. Example… 4 months ago, I was cold calling businesses trying to get info, contact info, and then get past the screening. Hours and hours, days and days. I switched to specific strategies on LinkedIn and Facebook, and I made contact immediately — within hours, with total strangers. Sales 2.0 is becoming the de facto way to do business.”
Sales Enablement bloggers on Knowledge and Context
On December 1, 2009 Matthias Roebel from EnableYourSales.com/blog wrote the following post entitled “It is time to think about creating an enterprise context”:
“Hang on a second! Could the following be happening? By implementing an enterprise social network a company is solving all its Sales Enablement Challenges? Well, I doubt it.
No question, it is extremely important for every company to leverage the social networking and interaction technologies available today. They actually might encourage employees to share knowledge and to connect with each other more easily. However, if a social networking strategy is implemented without addressing some fundamental content management and communications problems within the enterprise, it won’t be successful in the long run.
“Facebook doesn’t have your friends. It has facts about your friends. Google is at its best when it gives you links to links, not the information itself,” says Seth Godin in his recent blog post “Getting Meta“. Technology can just be an enabler, not the solution to existing fundamental problems – social software makes no exception here.
Why is that? Just imagine an international school, where students from all over the world are gathering. All of them are speaking different mother tongues – a lingua franca like English is missing however. Now offer to this crowd of students the possibility to network. What you’ll see happening is them networking within their language silos. Just like on Facebook or LinkedIn: Nobody is having friends he can’t communicate with – like in the real world.
Finding a common language
So, in order to make collaboration and knowledge exchange strategies sustainable and successful a common language within the enterprise needs to be established – a lingua franca, an enterprise context. If this is not happening, Sales and Marketing, Communications and Delivery will keep on misunderstanding each other causing a lot of inefficiencies for the company. And they will keep on producing more and more information without actually creating a knowledge base for the company – the social content additionally created by the masses, even would come on top of this information pile.
You may think: This sounds pretty philosophical and far from reality? Let me proof to you the opposite with two examples. The first example is related to the incredible number of different namings for the same type of document. Take a brochure: It may be called brochure or flyer or customer deliverable or, or, or… I’ve seen companies with 500+ different labels for in fact just over 70 types for content items.
The second example is related to the offerings of a company. Times are changing quickly and so are the names of products and solutions. It’s quite normal in an enterprise, that some people are still speaking about a product using its older name while others are using the new name or an abbreviation – such differences are another source for misunderstandings.
“Right now, there’s way too much stuff and far too little information about that stuff. Sounds like an opportunity,” Seth Godin also states in “Getting Meta”. And exactly this opportunity enterprises need to explore, if they really want to become serious about a sustainable knowledge strategy for their Sales and Delivery, their Marketing and Communications departments. To overcome their existing challenges in the area of Sales Enablement they need to start creating information about information, in other words: meta data. Organizing this meta data in a controlled framework means setting up a commonly agreed on enterprise context, which describes the macro and the micro structures of the companies in a simple, but effective manner.
Once set up, the company’s knowledge base can grow steadily and even socially without causing additional information overload. Marketing can produce content right on target, and Sales reliably receives the information they need to lead valuable conversations with their customers.”
Please see the original blog post and leave your comments here.
On November 22, 2009 Scott Santucci from blogs.forrester.com/tech_sales_enablement/ wrote the following in his post “It’s Been A While, Why — And What’s Going On With Sales Enablement These Days?”:
“[...] Too often people are focused on very tactical, short-term things to boost sales or improve skills, but a year later have very little to show for that effort. Why?
Enterprise selling is complex, and that complexity creates a paradox [...] where making things simple for customers and sales requires you to confront the fact that you have a variety of people in your company who each carry different perspectives of who your customers are; and what needs to be done to solve them.
Declaring you need better sales people (or smarter sales people), or focusing on more activity (more leads, more calls); misses the point entirely.
Your customers have access to more information now [...] than they have ever had before in the history of mankind. Preparing your sales people with more product knowledge is not suitable today as you are arming your field with the vary information customers can get themselves.
Buyer/seller relationships are stratifying right before our eyes into a new caste systems of strategic, value-added vendors on the one end; and undifferentiated, commodity-type suppliers on the other. Addressing this issue requires a fundamentally different way to go-to-market than we have had in the past and it means we’ve got to confront the mismatch in our business unit construct and product-centric view points with the new selling model of actually co-creating value with customers and focusing on helping those customers drive business outcomes.
[...] you would be very surprised at the number of your competitors who are building strategic programs right now to address these exact issues. The trick is to first understand this is a holistic problem, and then break it down into a set of manageable projects where you can “fix the plane while it’s flying”.”
Please see the full blog post and leave your comments here.
In response to Scott’s blog post Ken Knickerbocker wrote the following on December 1, 2009:
“Scott stated “you have a variety of people in your company who each carry different perspectives of who your customers are; and what needs to be done to [help] them.”
So true. In your presentation Scott you refer to this as blind men describing an elephant challenge. All the blind men see the elephant differently depending on which part of the animal they happen to be touching.
[...] I’ve begun calling it the Mexico Dilemma. How one defines Mexico is largely dependent on where in Mexico they’ve visited. [...]
So it is within any sales system. To someone tasked with ramping new sales people, knowledge management is an essential element in helping new recruits find the material and best practices needed to make a c-level call or position the company’s wide portfolio of products and services in the first meeting with that executive. But the Chief Sales Officer, with a singular focus on closing deals and meeting quarterly objectives, objectives the CFO and Wall Street are counting on, may not place the same emphasis on knowledge management. Instead knowledge management becomes just another SG&A line item to that CSO, one that is easily paired back in tough economic times.”
Eight Skills for Today’s Marketers

I couldn’t agree more with Kathleen Schaub’s post ‘Eight skills for tomorrows marketers’ at the GroupEffects Marketing Blog from November 9, 2009. However, I’m with Keith who commented on her blog that the title should read ‘Eight Skills for Today’s Marketers’:
“[...] Marketing’s most interesting new roles require skills from non-traditional disciplines.
For your next marketing hire, consider people experienced in the following areas:
1) Sales Skills: Now that 100% of B2B buyers repeatedly touch the web (both vendor’s sites and those of 3rd parties) throughout the buying process, marketing must stay active from “cold to close”. No more filling the top of the funnel and passing leads off to sales. Tony Jaros, VP of Research from Sirius Decisions asks a radical question – why is the web still in Corporate Marketing? No longer just a corporate brochure, the web is central to revenue generation. IDC’s CMO Advisory Practice says that some leading organizations (Intel, for example) are hiring CMO’s with sales backgrounds. With new organizational structures such as Demand Centers and with pressure for better sales enablement taking center stage, people with working knowledge of sales AND marketing are golden. All marketers should learn about selling.
2) Social Media Skills: It’s no secret that social media dramatically changes the buyer-seller-influencer dynamic. But only those actively participating in social media tangibly appreciate the differences between old-style one-way media conversations and the group interactivity.
3) Influencer Marketing Skills: Advocacy and relationship roles such as AR, PR, developer relations, customer advocacy, community managers and evangelists continue to move beyond traditional boundaries and broaden their role to more types of influencers. Influencer50 has identified 24 types (Barbara French lists them here).
4) Journalism/ Storytelling Skills: With buyers getting the majority of their information from the web and with sales enablement increasing in priority, there’s no end to the need for juicy, targeted content. David Meerman Scott suggests that wehire trained journalists. Our customer segments and our eco-systems would be their “beat” – listening for stories, mashing them with our messages and placing fresh, relevant, content within the conversation.
5) Process Design Skills: Marketing automation is just beginning to penetrate its market. Forrester says it’s less than 5% adopted. As anyone who has been part of a re-engineering effort can attest, it’s not the automation that increases productivity. It’s the process changes that automation enables and enforces. Deploying marketing automation will require skills such as process modeling, project management, the ability to train and manage change, as well as ease with technology.
6) Data/ Analytics Skills: Technology captures and makes available enormous amounts of data about buyer and seller behavior. What does it all mean? Two of the most valuable uses of data are the ability to reveal a buyer’s “digital body language“, as Eloqua’s Steven Woods’ new book discusses, as well as the ability to closely link marketing performance to business performance. Real data about customer behavior and real ties to revenue promise marketing leadership a bigger seat at the executive table.
7) Design Thinking Skills: CEO’s want to know, “how can I make my company more innovative?” In addition to R&D, marketing would be a natural place to source talent. In his new book, Change by Design, Tim Brown, CEO of design shop IDEO, talks about how leading companies are tapping into right-brain tricks that those schooled in the arts practice, such as brainstorming, role-playing and scenario-building (see his TED talks here).
8) Domain Expertise: Customers don’t care about our products. They care about themselves and their problems. Building a bridge between our products and the customer’s care-abouts requires knowledge of both realms.”
The importance of video in Sales 2.0
Over at newsaleseconomy.com Chad Levitt wrote the great blog post ‘Next Generation Sales Reps Use Video To Win’, on February 7th, 2009. Mike Meisner commented:
“[...] I don’t see many [...] posts out there about the importance of video in web/sales 2.0. People would rather casually watch a demo/video than have to attend a scheduled presentation or even a webinar [...]. It’s the ultimate in providing accessible information. [...]“
From Chad’s post:
“[...] The next generation of sales reps are using technology to grab mindshare through surrounding their prospects with helpful content. They do this without being intrusive and let the customer engage at their own pace. The content you can surround your prospect with is endless.
Video Presentations are the easiest way to surround your customer
[...] sites like YouTube, Vimeo and Viddler allow you to store and share your videos easily. [...] Once your video presentations are created you can begin to e-mail your customers links to your presentations and create many types of interesting campaigns. [...] By using video, you give your presentation more reach and increase the chances of it being watched again. Your prospect can review the parts that were important to them on their own time in their comfort zone. And prospects make the buying decision in their comfort zone first and then tell you about it later. [...]
Video presentations are less intrusive than standing in front of your customer delivering a live presentation. The world is moving towards less intrusive ways of connecting with people and you can get ahead of the pack by developing videos of your sales presentations. Your video presentation will also help reinforce the message you delivered in your live presentation and increase the chances of you making the sale. [...]“
Obviously the text above has been written from a sales perspective. If you are in marketing you should google the term ’social media release’ as a video should be a part of every social media press release. The nice thing about having your video uploaded to a public site is that everyone can email the link to others and once in a while even in a b2b settings things go viral.
Those of you who have posted videos on YouTube might know this already; the ‘Insights’ part where the owner of a video can track metrics around it has been improved by Google. The following is a screen shot for a video I posted during my studies and for me it is interesting to observe who is embedding it / where it gets how many views from and which audiences I reach:

When it comes to Sales Enablement, it goes without saying how important it is to not only provide sales people with streaming versions of videos but to also provide downloadable versions of these videos in the Sales Enablement application/site. That ensures that the sales people can screen high quality video in front of the customer even in situations without access to the intranet or internet.
Social Media Revolution
Via Chad Levitt’s post ‘Do You Believe in the Social Media Revolution?’ from August 24, 2009 I found the video below:
“Very interesting video from Erik Qualman (@equalman) over at socialnomics.com that highlights how social media is changing the ways companies do business and ultimately the world economy.
What does this have to do with the sales profession? Well, everything.”
Job opening – Sales Enablement Community Manager
[Sales Enablement] Community Manager – Job opening on monster.com
Job Summary
“Location: Telecommute
Industries: Business Services – Other
Job Type: Full Time, Temporary/Contract/Project, Employee
Relevant Work Experience: 5+ to 7 Years
Education Level: Bachelor’s Degree
Career Level: Manager (Manager/Supervisor of Staff)About the Job
We are a sales enablement company and are looking to build a content rich social network for sales professionals. We are looking for a Community Manager that will help us build, launch and grow this network which will bring together training/coaching and collaboration for all things sales.An overview of the position:
Collect, edit, and publish content on our site. Manage outbound messaging programs that deliver broader (# of subscribers/fans) and deeper (frequency of engagement) connections with community members and prospects. Activities to include: editorial responsibility for our site, development and management of email program plans and content, development and management of outbound messaging plans and content on social media platforms.
Responsibilities:
· Ensure that the best, most current, most compelling content is available for community members based on analysis of trends and activity on the site/forums etc.
· Create / implement a content plan.
· Work with key contributors / outside SMEs / contributing editors to identify the best content and provide it to consumers via the site and outbound messaging platforms (email, facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc.).
· Customize the user experience based on preferred content
· Set time frames for publishing and goals for engagement experience.
· Set time frames for publishing and goals for views/engagement in outbound messaging platforms including but not limited to: email, facebook, Twitter etc.
· Develop broader (# of subscribers/fans) and deeper (frequency of engagement) connections between community members via effective program design and content selection/editing.
· Consult with teammates regarding frequency of communications on social platforms considering quality of content, fan/subscriber engagement, and fan/subscriber growth or attrition.
· Oversee report production, develop action plans for improvement, and distribute to managers and executive team.
· Create dashboards, oversee report production, develop action plans for improvement and distribute to managers and executive team.
· Recruit guest contributors
KNOWLEDGE, SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE
· Dynamic publishing and/or outbound messaging professional with at least 5 years of experience
· Editorial sense (Being the digital “Editor in Chief”)->content and story developer with specific skill in digital communications.
· Self directed. Able to create plans, execute, and achieve results with little specific direction.
· Natural entrepreneurial instinct and ability to succeed in variety of situations and political environments
· Strong marketing understanding and excellent analytical skills
· Excellent production knowledge: use of content management systems, publishing workflows, approval cycles, publishing to multiple platforms
· Extensive knowledge of at least one robust content management platform used to power a large-scale site
· Knowledge of one or more of the following will be a plus: search engines, analytics applications, ad-serving technology and email systems.
· Excellent planning and project management competencies
· Strong knowledge of or background in Sales would be great”
Social Selling
I guess the term ‘Social Selling’ is equivalent to the term ‘Sales 2.0′. On June 09, 2009 http://blog.marketo.com wrote…
“[...] as buyers started to research their purchases online, preventing the sales rep from deciphering the buyer’s intention from their physical actions. So sales professionals reacted, spending their time pouring over online data, trying to understand what made a good buyer. Because it was difficult to tell which online behaviors were part of the buyer’s decision path, sales couldn’t just focus their energy where there would be the biggest payoff. And when they did reach the buyer, it was often after they had made much of their decision, leaving the sales rep to negotiate price and mail out a contract. Marketing tried to help by scoring leads and only passing the ones that met certain criteria, but this still meant a heavy burden for sales, who had to look through pages of online data for the leads that were given to them.
Sales is now ready to take back some of the control, with the evolution of social selling. Social selling is the use of web 2.0 technologies merged with traditional sale strategies, enabling sales to prioritize their time again, and help serve as experts in the product selection process instead of just serving as negotiators. But there are many misconceptions about its use.
Misconception of Social Selling
True Social Selling
Sales is notified when leads visit your site
Sales is notified when a qualified lead does something interesting on your website
Sales can view a list of all of their leads in their CRM
Sales can sort their leads in their CRM by priority, allowing them to contact leads when they need the most attention
Sales can see all the companies that visit your website
Sales can see the companies in their territory that visit your website, and can access and import key contacts at those organizations into their CRM
Sales must go to multiple websites to find contact information
Sales can access Jigsaw, Demandbase, & LinkedIn directly through the tools they are already using
Sales must learn to go through all their lead’s web activity and email activity to identify the best leads and to figure out when to make contact
Sales is alerted when leads participate in interesting activities that indicate they are a hot prospect
Sales must learn to use new email tools inside their CRM or other external tools requiring training
Sales can use Outlook to reach prospects, and data is sent to their CRM, with enhanced information about opens and click-throughs
Email templates are kept in the CRM
Email templates are accessed in Outlook
Sales must sit in front of their computer watching for interesting online body language from prospects
Sales can subscribe to receive Facebook style status updates for the prospects, companies, and actions they think are most important, allowing them to work on the go without missing an opportunity
Marketing tells sales when they need to work with a prospect
Marketing passes leads to sales, and, if needed, sales passes leads that need nurturing back to marketing
Sales must spend hours looking through information in multiple systems to understand what is going on with a prospect
Sales can use RSS to send all the different types of prospect information into one system, saving them time and effort
While sales may not go back to days on the golf course, with social selling they are able to go back to prioritizing their time, focusing on the qualified leads that will be the biggest sales earlier in the buying process. This will not only cause for increased success, but increased margins and shorter sales cycles, making their contributions evident to the entire organization.”
Twitter for Product Marketers
What I like about Twitter I described in
This has been said about Google and might be said about Twitter soon: What you can’t find via its search doesn’t happen.
Via rocketwatcher.com, I’m subscribed to, I found “7 Reasons Why Good Product Managers Must Be On Twitter”:
- Connect with other PMs [...]
- Get in touch with (potential) clients [...]
- Listen to customer feedback [...]
- Locate the experts [...]
- Share good and relevant articles [...]
- Grow your online-reputation [...]
- Let people know about your product [...]
Read the full blog post at webproductblog.com
Here is the response “5 Not Obvious Reasons Product Marketers Should Twitter” from rocketwatcher.com:
“Thomas Fuchs Martin over at webproductblog.com had a great post called “the 7 reasons why good product managers must be on Twitter” which covers the big reasons like listening to customer feedback and connecting with other PM’s. This then got me thinking about other perhaps less pressing reasons to be on Twitter and I give you…
5 non-obvious reasons product marketers should Twitter:
- Communicate Bad News [...]
- Spy on the Other Guys [...]
- Get inside the heads of Analysts and Experts [...]
- Find People you Want to Hire (and some you don’t) [...]
- Prove you’re human (so people cut your company some slack when you screw up) [...]“
Read the fullblog post “5 Not Obvious Reasons Product Marketers Should Twitter”.




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